The W124 Mercedes 500E was the world's most perfect sedan | Revelations with Jason Cammisa | Ep. 05

There are a lot of misconceptions about the Porsche-built W124 Mercedes 500E, and Jason explains why the 500E and E500 was NOT a Porsche sports sedan with a Mercedes badge. First off, there's not a single Porsche part on the car.

Porsche Engineering Services helped with reengineering the W124's engine compartment to fit in the 32-valve, 4-cam M119 V-8 - for both the 400E and the 500E.

But the 500E doesn't use the same V-8 as the 500SL. It needed shorter connecting rods so that it fit in the same physical space as the 4.2-liter 400E - this way only one structural variant needed to be produced.

The 400E was a response to the Lexus LS400. Why do you think it wasn't called a 420E?

Porsche also did the engineering to bolt up wheels, tires, brakes, and suspension components from the wider and heavier R129 500SL and W124 500SEL. That necessitated fender flares so wide that the 500E didn't fit down the regular W124 production line in Sindelfingen.

For both models, Porsche performed the physical modifications to Mercedes-built W124 chassis, and sent them back to Sindelfingen for paint. The 400E remained there, but because of its width, the 500E was sent back to Porsche, which assembled the 500E at a second Zuffenhausen factory.

With Bruno Sacco's revolutionary looks, aerodynamics, obsession with safety, and Mercedes build quality and engineering might, the W124 was certainly among the best (and most expensive) sedans in the world.

Still is. It's close to perfect. But it's not a Porsche Sports Sedan.

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Comments 

  1. Daniel F.

    Daniel F.

    6 hours ago

    this video definetly contributes to the 500E's used prices

  2. Frejdyn Jarrett

    Frejdyn Jarrett

    11 hours ago

    Best auto journalist EVER. I enjoy Mr. Cammisa's presentations more, even, than Mr. Clarkson's. Only just.

  3. Adam Arez

    Adam Arez

    16 hours ago

    I love mine! It is in Rose’ Pewter, which I understand is 1/37 in the World and 1/17 in US. Do you know anything about color production?

  4. p1epoppa

    p1epoppa

    Day ago

    Loved the narration! 💪🏽

  5.  NPC9000

    NPC9000

    Day ago

    I like how Americans call anything under an F150 compact, I guess everything is a compact when you're a burger.

  6. Christopher King

    Christopher King

    Day ago

    I'm a BMW guy and in an older car I need a manual but notwithstanding that you gotta give it up to the 400 and 500E and just such a simple, elegant body style while the S class cars got bigger and uglier. BTW Porsche also worked on the 960 Volvo engine. There's a nice little grocery getter and can be had cheaply. Poor man's Benz LOL.

  7. Wojciech Adamczyk

    Wojciech Adamczyk

    Day ago

    Perfect sedan is m5 e34 or m5 e39

  8. rc

    rc

    Day ago

    Our first car w124 230E😍❤️

  9. Sreyas Sreedhar

    Sreyas Sreedhar

    Day ago

    Benz 190 E♥️

  10. Tom Board

    Tom Board

    Day ago

    So just for giggles I decided to see if there were any 500Es for sale. I found a few 1992 models. The cheapest with 150k miles was $43,000. Now I'm looking at my 2004 Lexus LS430 with a 150k miles that I paid $6k out the door a year and a half ago with even more love...and a tinge of envy.

  11. Illegalquantity

    Illegalquantity

    2 days ago

    I totally agree,the 500E was the best car ever built. Second one was 190E 2.5-16!

  12. BushPilot

    BushPilot

    2 days ago

    Instantly sucked into that video. That got a like and sub for sure one of the best I have seen. Plus looks incredibly fun to drive.

  13. WJS6495

    WJS6495

    3 days ago

    This guy is funny

  14. binhonz

    binhonz

    3 days ago

    and Senna drove one of these on the track, faaaaaast!

  15. Luigi Tabbi

    Luigi Tabbi

    3 days ago

    What a video!

  16. Tunde Akinyosoye

    Tunde Akinyosoye

    3 days ago

    Mercedes Benz - was/is a status symbol in Nigeria. 500E/E500 were not common - E200/E300 were more widespread and had the nickname V-Boot - guessing it was due to that rear design. Lovely car - however I am a BMW man!!

  17. NearlyZero

    NearlyZero

    3 days ago

    I had a 1991 300E My god I miss that baby. Also had a 1989 300SEL. Both were amazing. "I swear they had the power to repair themselves". Tom Waits

  18. Chris Wilkinson

    Chris Wilkinson

    3 days ago

    Now Imagine that with a 5/6 speed manual and then it’s neck level special! ala E39 M5…

  19. Kizi chillin

    Kizi chillin

    3 days ago

    Thank you for posting 🙌

  20. Kizi chillin

    Kizi chillin

    3 days ago

    I wanna buy them all from you...let me jt check the back of my sofa🔄🏧🕳️🦧

  21. Hiroshi13

    Hiroshi13

    3 days ago

    LS400 > Mercedes anything

  22. Frank

    Frank

    4 days ago

    Awesome.

  23. Klaus Haunstrup Christensen

    Klaus Haunstrup Christensen

    4 days ago

    A bit noisy. So not quite perfect. Some might claim it’s a glorious sound/ noise but I don’t buy it. See for me the most glorious sound in the world is The Creation by Joseph Haydn, still I will go bonkers if have to listen to it hours by hours, day by day. Engine noise is substantially less musical and almost completely monotonous so it’s going to drive me bonkers faster. I assume the 400E mentioned is less noisy so it might be the best car in the world 🤔

  24. Geass Sogeki

    Geass Sogeki

    4 days ago

    The world's most perfect sedan is the Model S Plaid!

  25. Shawn Greenaway

    Shawn Greenaway

    4 days ago

    Worked on these cars years back. They are a super cool high performance sedan. Almost every switch is serviceable. The control units were still plug and play. If I was to own a MB of that era it would be the E 300. Much easier to work on.

  26. Gabriele Pepe

    Gabriele Pepe

    4 days ago

    Where is the love reaction button!!?

  27. Feri Seven

    Feri Seven

    4 days ago

    100% not most! sorry!

  28. toasteh

    toasteh

    4 days ago

    Really well made documentary. Thanks for making and sharing!

  29. Jason Jackson

    Jason Jackson

    4 days ago

    C11

  30. Cisco Urquidez

    Cisco Urquidez

    4 days ago

    First I wamt to compliment one of my favorite hosts that worked at Motortrend. Now, on a transition that has obviously given him intellectual and artistic freedom. SOAR! Missed you on HEAD2HEAD...... Appreciate you more NOW!! Good luck papa!! Your content is GOLD!!🤔🤗😎👍

  31. bbmavic

    bbmavic

    5 days ago

    Ben afflek??

  32. dharkbizkit

    dharkbizkit

    5 days ago

    i wouldnt call it infatuation with fuel economy, rather a necessity due to fuel prices. and its still the same thing today, even tho usa prices got higher over time. 1 litre 95 is around 1,55 euro today here in germany, according to a us travel advise website, average price in the us for 95 gas is 75 eurocent. when my relatives were stationed here, the complain so hard. it was the mid 90s and they said, it 3x times as expensive to fill the car up here

  33. Phil Norton

    Phil Norton

    5 days ago

    Certainly one of MB’s best, and undoubtedly from their best period, but the best saloon ever? What about the timing chains needed from 50,000 miles? The rust? The price of parts? The fact that it didn’t even need a speed limiter? Quite impressive in its day, a tad less so now. I’d still have one, but let’s remove the rose tinted specs.😎

  34. Earl Ocampo

    Earl Ocampo

    5 days ago

    Where can I get one of these?

  35. Prone Rider 562

    Prone Rider 562

    5 days ago

    2:29...Bro...Get those scrstchy ass jeans off the whip! 🤣

  36. Cameron St.Clair

    Cameron St.Clair

    6 days ago

    Absolutely loved this video... up until I saw that public roads were being used. Please be careful.

  37. Daniel Stefanov

    Daniel Stefanov

    6 days ago

    Citroen C5 Exclusiv, ever heard of it? ;)

  38. M K

    M K

    6 days ago

    The 70s? The W124 500E was in production 1990-1995. About 20 years off

  39. Al Ale

    Al Ale

    6 days ago

    The first person driving at the end was awesome. Now time to go to marketplace.

  40. M K

    M K

    6 days ago

    What’s the Mercedes that was in the movie “Double Impact” with Jean Claude Van Damne?

  41. Mark Marko

    Mark Marko

    6 days ago

    The 80s is when cars used to be real cars, European and Japanese, nothing exciting about today's cars, engineers have their hands and brains cuffed, profit is all what matters, just like what happened to boeing

  42. Shawn Elliott

    Shawn Elliott

    6 days ago

    It's certainly an incredibly impressive Autobahn Bomber. But for daily commuting in shitty American traffic, my Camry Hybrid with radar-assisted cruise control, automatic lane-centering, no gear-changes, and 50mpg in stop-and-go freeway traffic-jams, wins hands-down.

  43. craigb

    craigb

    6 days ago

    They really are a stunning car even today.(the 124's).. every now and then you drive past one and they are usually in immaculate condition and you go.... WoW. I think you captured it well when you said "look at all the other cars" from the 80's

  44. Abdelrahman Khairy

    Abdelrahman Khairy

    6 days ago

    I am appalled by myself not finding this channel sooner... Here's a subscribe..., take it!😄🤲

    • Abdelrahman Khairy

      Abdelrahman Khairy

      6 days ago

      I also strongly suspect Doug DeMuro is actually a robot pretending to be human.

  45. crazyman8472

    crazyman8472

    6 days ago

    So, a late ‘70s Mercedes? That was when “Mercedes” meant something besides “overpriced junk”. 😜

    • SM356

      SM356

      3 days ago

      Junk? Are you out of your damn mind?

  46. Marcus Mcgarkus

    Marcus Mcgarkus

    6 days ago

    Personally I thought the most perfect sedan was a Chevrolet Caprice Classic or even a Mercury Grand Marquis. You guys like expensive cars that go to the shop a lot. Engineered like no other car in the world..thank God!

  47. Kseno Morf

    Kseno Morf

    7 days ago

    finally someone who pronounces Porsche correctly

  48. Rhythm Stick

    Rhythm Stick

    7 days ago

    BECAUSE IT FITS THE VAPOURWAVE AESTHETIC

  49. SG

    SG

    7 days ago

    Love my daily drive 1992 300E. But the only thing that I believe one can never control; the absolute MPG, is what's hurting me the most. Best I got was ~26 US MPG and worst I got was 16 in my specific driving conditions. Yet still I plan on keeping it forever. Critical parts are still manageable with reasonable price so far even tho they keep getting less available and more expensive.

  50. Nespokesman

    Nespokesman

    7 days ago

    Good job, damn...

  51. THE BGSTER

    THE BGSTER

    7 days ago

    I dont if its the best sedan but its between this and the lotus carlton

  52. Addo Blaknovski

    Addo Blaknovski

    7 days ago

    GOAT auto journalist 💜

  53. Theo Teddy

    Theo Teddy

    7 days ago

    wow opel calibra had the same drag coeficient and bragged about it so much I remember it.. never heard mercedes mentioning it that times..

  54. Mekai Fortune

    Mekai Fortune

    8 days ago

    Nice production

  55. Andrew Garcia

    Andrew Garcia

    8 days ago

    Probably the coolest merc ever short of the hammer

  56. Tj Enki

    Tj Enki

    8 days ago

    Please do the Lexus LS 400/430

  57. Lorend Bungaran

    Lorend Bungaran

    8 days ago

    04:17 is he trying to sit on the bonnet??

  58. Christopher Prose

    Christopher Prose

    8 days ago

    Great video and so interesting. I had no idea there was so much going on with this car at the time. I do remember when flushed headlights finally arrived in America. They were so cool! Still, it took the US manufacturers years to catch up with that trend and for congress to approve the innovation. You had only two choices with American cars: Round or square, that's it. To me, Europe still has a more diverse and intriguing range of cars to choose from. All we get anymore is SUVs. At least they all come with flush headlights now.

  59. Alan Hadzic

    Alan Hadzic

    8 days ago

    God is above as Mercedes below

  60. Tapejara 150

    Tapejara 150

    8 days ago

    He knows.

  61. LEE ZEO

    LEE ZEO

    8 days ago

    W124 love it

  62. Brendan Carlson

    Brendan Carlson

    8 days ago

    🔨

  63. Birch

    Birch

    8 days ago

    Man, now I just gotta see the LS400 video.

  64. Henry P

    Henry P

    8 days ago

    One of my favorite episodes, and prob one of my favorite cars ever! Great Content !

  65. Obamaistoast2012

    Obamaistoast2012

    9 days ago

    The most perfect car is my 93 mitsubishi expo LRV,

  66. socallawrence

    socallawrence

    9 days ago

    This dude is a mix of Adam Sandler, Ben Affleck and and Edward Burns LOL

  67. battlecat

    battlecat

    9 days ago

    Lexus will always be better than Benz.

  68. Mudiaga Idjerhaka

    Mudiaga Idjerhaka

    9 days ago

    Till today....2021.... are you sure..though I like Mercedes benz

  69. A one

    A one

    9 days ago

    W124 engineering masterpiece

  70. Nick Hagen

    Nick Hagen

    9 days ago

    Saw the intro. I insta subbed !:) i know am the right place !

  71. xn0

    xn0

    9 days ago

    The masturbating windshield wiper is awesome.

  72. Jose Gutierrez

    Jose Gutierrez

    9 days ago

    A thing of beauty, this car is rolling art where form follows function

  73. Nick Blackwell

    Nick Blackwell

    9 days ago

    Brilliant video. Very interesting

  74. Don K

    Don K

    10 days ago

    I just discovered this video. I have a 1989 W124 200, which has done 446 000 km - every thing still original and she goes like a bomb. When I give my grandchild's friends a lift from school, they always say, "wow, it rides so smoothly" even though their parents have the latest models of all types of vehicles. I love my Merc as it goes untouched from service to service. Other cars dread colliding with it as it is like a tank in comparison with many of the flimsy cars of today. Although it has been a family car for years, the interior is immaculate and so too the exterior (except for a bit of rust at rear window (coastal car)). Still quite a few in my Town looking super good. You can park them next to the latest models and it will stand proud. Thanks for the excellent presentation.

  75. manolis wec

    manolis wec

    10 days ago

    nice work

  76. MökkiMan

    MökkiMan

    10 days ago

    Still, Mercedes W124 is better than LS400

  77. Stefan M

    Stefan M

    10 days ago

    I remember when I was kid I saw this car and i fall in love with Mercedes. This Mercedes together with w140, w123 was symbol of success.

  78. Kalle Simonen

    Kalle Simonen

    10 days ago

    volvo 940!

  79. M22ate

    M22ate

    10 days ago

    I need one

  80. Gregory Garcia

    Gregory Garcia

    10 days ago

    Damn doode. You’re such a Fender Licker. I love your style.

  81. Rakyh

    Rakyh

    10 days ago

    My brother had one of the few 500E in Sweden and that thing was an absolute BLAST to drive!

  82. Peter Kröger

    Peter Kröger

    10 days ago

    I always find it hillarious when I hear what Americans call "a compact". This was the second biggest Mercedes for crying out loud. Here in Europe we call a VW Golf a compact an thats two sizes smaller. (At least back then.)

  83. 4k re-ality

    4k re-ality

    10 days ago

    Burt Kreisher to tell you how great the 500E was

  84. Conor James

    Conor James

    11 days ago

    anyone else do a google search. see the price ...laugh...and then wanted to buy 1?

  85. Bad-Short-Videos

    Bad-Short-Videos

    11 days ago

    The "Porsche" license plate holder on the 124 is very fitting

  86. Dave Mills

    Dave Mills

    11 days ago

    Now this was fun to watch. Excellent 👌

  87. Louigie

    Louigie

    11 days ago

    I want that car... Super Advanced yet built by 1970??? Dude..

  88. Channel D

    Channel D

    11 days ago

    I had a friend who had one, it's was awesome

  89. channel surfer

    channel surfer

    11 days ago

    why would anybody thumb this show down? this is how you do a car show...it's the best one.

  90. Anubhav Singh

    Anubhav Singh

    11 days ago

    Some of the finest video I have seen in long time

  91. channel surfer

    channel surfer

    11 days ago

    ...is the 2010 Jaguar XF hands down.

  92. veezo85

    veezo85

    11 days ago

    My W124 saved me from a head on collision with a Toyota pickup. I skidded off the road due to an oil spill and my car didn't have airbags. I walked away from the crash sadly my car didn't..

  93. Premium Motors Mercedes Service

    Premium Motors Mercedes Service

    11 days ago

    Nice car and reliable

  94. R. Flash

    R. Flash

    11 days ago

    The things you can do when you actually put some effort in. We went to the moon 40 years ago and now all these wannabe engineers with fancy computers can't even build a 747 with it blowing up! Also how on earth do you build a car that can't even fit down ur own assembly line like nobody thought to measure!🤦‍♂️

  95. Mean Mister Mustard

    Mean Mister Mustard

    11 days ago

    one of my favorite cars of all time... and I'm dreaming of having one. LOL! for 250 to 350k philippine pesos, i can own one... that's the E230 - E320 btw

  96. Tech Mania

    Tech Mania

    12 days ago

    worlds most perfect sedan is bmw e39 and please dont discussions!

  97. Øyvind Samuelsen

    Øyvind Samuelsen

    12 days ago

    Liked in 1 sec just because of JC. Yeah the one in the video, not the other guy.

  98. Exotic Cars

    Exotic Cars

    12 days ago

    Nah it's heap of junk. Best sedan is the Tesla Model S and Model 3

  99. Diev-Man NGWENYA

    Diev-Man NGWENYA

    12 days ago

    I still saving to restore my Gramp's

  100. NihlistNif

    NihlistNif

    12 days ago

    PORSHA

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